Discussion on 'Did God exist before or after the Big Bang?'

(6) On July 20, 2008 at 8:18 pm NesteaR [0] said:

ONLY MY TWO CENTS..... but as I see it in the beginning the Big Bang created both (a) the elements which over a very long period of time combined and resulted in the galaxies/stars/planets being formed and (b) after humans evolving from slime the 'idea' of God..... which to this day causes great debate and violence amongst intolerant people.

(5) On June 12, 2008 at 4:35 pm Philiptory [0] said:

I see no confilct between creation in the Holy Bible and Science.

If you look at the stages of creation according to science, they follow generally the description in the bible.

It begins with "God said, 'Let there be light, and there was light..." etc. Science calls it the 'Big Bang' which was the brightest light ever; (pity we weren't there to see it!)

And you can follow the stages either in the Bible or in Science: I think it's a pretty good description. If you are a scientist like me, how else would you explain creation to bronze-age Man, who could not count beyond his fingers and toes. They could understand the concept of "days" OK; but six billion years? - beyond their understanding. Somewhere else in the Bible it says "To God a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years is like a day." He is outside of time; a day or a thousand years - little difference to Him.

In 2005 I visited the remote parts of Masailand in Kenya, where the people live in what we would call 'mud huts'. They cannot read; their language Ki-Masai does not have a future tense: "Tomorrow, I go to the Mara." Many of them still cannot count beyond a hundred. So what about bronze age man?

It's easy to reconcile the Bible with Science.

Philip Tory BSc(Hons) Applied Physics with Electronics.

(4) On June 01, 2008 at 04:21 am Akshidevi69 [1] said:

I agree that God's 'speaking' ALL THINGS into existence CAN include the 'big bang' theory. I don't for one moment doubt that when God SPOKE the first item on His agenda into existence there was an almighty 'BANG!' & I am a believer too. My God may have a still small voice, but His voice packs a powerful punch, no two ways about it.

(3) On October 07, 2007 at 10:31 pm Emdrgreg [671] said:

Disputes over the 'creation' of the earth are separate from "The Big Bang" theory. The events are separated by many billions of years. People of faith are allowed to think, although they are under no obligation. It is ok to have a belief about how things came about, and to still be open to ideas that may allow for wider interpretations of faith-approved materials. It's also ok for others to speculate, within or outside of religious rules.

(2) On May 17, 2007 at 00:08 am Joe Sewell [880] said:

I moved Mizark's commentary here because it honestly doesn't answer the question, which presupposes the existence of both God (albeit that of a non-specified religion) and the Big Bang. While the comment would be a good answer (except for the "ignorant" statement) for the question "How can you support the Big Bang theory," it doesn't fit into the answer here. Since it's more of a discussion topic, it has been moved here where it belongs.

(1) On May 17, 2007 at 00:05 am Joe Sewell [880] said:

Comment from mizark2486n

The below answers are mostly so completely ignorant they're painful to read.

The big bang is the model to explain the formation of the universe, NOT the existence of matter and energy. The big bang absolutely happened because we live in a rapidly expanding universe.

Did god exist before the big bang? I don't know that any gods exist to begin with, how would I know *when* they existed?

The big bang theory is a theory yes, so is gravity. In science a theory is the best explaination, period.

"The 2nd law of thermodynamics proves that Everything is decaying. That Nothing comes from nothing. And that chaos can not produce order. Therefore the Big Bang THEORY is false and never existed to begin with."

A law of science is not a "rule" the cosmos can't violate, it is an observation we have never observed to be false. We did not observe the big bang, nor does it have anything to do with the formation or re-formation of matter, only the expansion of it over the cosmos after it existed.

And either way the big bang theory definitely "exists".

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