Where would you look for proof of God's existence?

Answer 1

Something similar to Elijah's duel with the priests of Ba'al, just with repeatable results and no influence from man-made objects. That would probably do it for me.

Answer:

Nothing, absolutely nothing would prove the existence of the deity for me. Absolutely compelling logical proof would render faith meaningless. That would prove to be an interesting logical dilemma. I am an agnostic, so with 'proof' or without it, I must leave the reality of a deity to those who possess faith. If there is anything to the basic teachings, that is the way the deity meant for it to be.

Ironically, for similar reasons people of faith should be fearful of approaching the world as if it can or should somehow provide 'proof'. What is that saying about the nature of faith?

Answer:

There are tens of proofs for God's existence. These have been recorded for centuries and are easy to look up. However, this subject is ultimately one of personal belief, since our possession of free-will mandates that it be possible to put forth arguments (fallacious or not) against every one of the proofs.

Here are a few:

1) Teleological Argument: The universe has definite design, order, and arrangement which cannot be sufficiently explained outside a theistic worldview. From the complexities of the human eye to the order and arrangement of cosmology, the voice of God is heard. God's existence is the best explanation for such design. God is the designer.

2) Anthropic Principle: The laws of the universe seem to have been set in such a way that stars, planets and life can exist. Many constants of nature appear to be finely tuned for this, and the odds against this happening by chance are astronomical.

3) Sensus divinitatus: The innate sense of the divine exists within all people. People and cultures of all time have, by nature, sensed a need to worship something greater than themselves. No ancient society ever existed that did not believe in a supernatural power.

4) Tradition: There are events in human history which cannot be explained without God. Many people have their subjective stories that bend them in the direction of theism, but there are also historical events such as the Giving of the Torah, which are underpinnings for the belief in God.

5) Pascal's Wager: Belief in God is the most rational choice due to the consequences of being wrong. If one were to believe in God and be wrong, there would be no consequences. However, if one were to deny God and be wrong, the consequences are eternally tragic. Therefore, the most rational choice is not agnosticism or Atheism, but belief in God.

6) Why is there reality rather than nothing? Aside from God's creating it, there are only five options:

a) The universe is eternal and everything has always existed.

- Even atheists have abandoned this possibility, especially because it would violate the Second Law of Thermodynamics.

b) Nothing exists and all is an illusion. There is no reality. There is only nothing.

- This possibility, it should be obvious, is completely self-defeating. In order to even make such a proposition, the subject has to exist in some sense. If all is an illusion, where did the illusion come from? Even the solipsist, who does not believe in the existence of other minds, has to explain the genesis of his own mind.

c). The universe created itself. This is the idea that the universe and all that is in it did not have its origin in something outside itself, but from within.

- Like with the previous two, this makes a logical absurdity. It would be like creating a square triangle. It's impossible. A triangle by definition cannot be square. So creation cannot create itself as it would have to pre-date itself to create. The pre-dated form would then need a sufficient explanatory cause, ad infinitum.

d) Chance created the universe. The odds of winning the lottery are not very good; but given enough time, everyone will win. While the odds of the universe coming into existence are not very good, given enough time, it could happen.

- This option is a sleight of hand that, like "survival of the fittest," amounts to nothing, because it implies that "chance" itself has quantitative causal power.

The word "chance" is used to describe possibilities. It does not have the power to cause those possibilities. It is nonsense to speak of chance being the agent of creation of anything, since chance is not an agent. "What are the real chances of the universe created by chance? Not a chance. Chance is incapable of creating a single molecule, let alone an entire universe. Why not? Chance is no thing. It is not an entity. It has no being, no power, no force. It can effect nothing because it has no causal power within it. It is a word which describes mathematical possibilities which, by the curious flip of the fallacy of ambiguity, slips into the discussion as if it were a real entity with real power, the power of creativity." (R.C. Sproul, Not a Chance. Grand Rapids, MI: Baker, 1999.)

e) The universe is created by nothing. Simply put, nothing created the universe.

- The problem here is that it is either a restating of option "a" (the universe is eternal) or fails due to the irrationality of "d". In our current universe, the law of cause and effect cannot be denied by sane people. While we often don't know what the cause of some effect is, this does not mean that there was no cause. When we go to the doctor looking for an explanation for the cause of our neck pain, we don't accept the answer "There is no cause. It came from nothing."

Answer 2

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The only viable proof of any deity's existence is this:

1 (1) If I believe in God, then God exists. Assumed

2 (2) I believe in God. Assumed

1,2 (3) Therefore, God exists. Modus ponens

Do you have faith? If so, then the argument is valid for reality. Otherwise, it isn't.

God exists if you think he/she/it does.

Another perspective:There is no "proof" of God's existence; otherwise faithwould not be a prerequisite to "come to God" (Hebrews 11:1, 6).

Evidence of God's existence, on the other hand, is everywhere (Psalm 19:1; Romans 1:20). The difference between belief and disbelief depends on one's interpretation of the evidence.

Answer

My answer would be both the bible and science....

Genesis 1:1 (first book, chapter, and verse of The Bible) says "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth..."

If you look at that, it says three things:

1. There was a beginning

2. There is a creator

3. There is design

Answer 3

I would say don't waste your time running around on this; there is no proof either way. This may seem good news to anti-religionists, but even people of faith will say that the key is faith, and not evidence. Belief in a deity and practices attendant to that belief are another way to view the world; neither better than nor inferior to any number of alternatives. A willingness to both question everything and to be open-minded at the same time is the best way to gain wisdom and understanding. Or, in a word, we don't know what we don't know. We shouldn't mouth off as if we do!