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If I promise to answer this one, ya gotta promise me one thing.....QUIT CALLING THE SACRED TATTOO MACHINE A 'GUN', sorry didnt mean to shout it so loud, but remember......GUNS kill people, MACHINES make the guns that kill people......
O.K., now that we got that straight, you may have seen a tattooer use one machine just loading different tubes on it to use as outliner or shader. While this may be acceptable to some, I like to set my machines for the different types of functions.
My outliner runs a lil' faster and has a decent stroke length so that I dont worry about going to light....After all without the right depth the ink will have 'holidays' in it.
My shaders tend to run a lil' slower depending on the function.....If I am pushing a big magnum, it will have more stroke....My rounds tend to run a lil' slower....And I have a machine set up to shade flat magnums and another to do round shading with.....Hope this does it cuz anymore than that you'll have to be my apprentice!! Sorry, no openings right now....TatuBaron
I agree with everything here except for one. Guns do NOT kill people, they are a tool just like a tattoo machine. Guns don't kill people, people kill people. A tattoo machine doesn't tattoo you, a person does. The wrench doesn't fix your car, the person weilding it does. While I can't think of any ways to kill a person with a tattoo machine itself(although certain tattoo's might accomplish you getting maimed by other people), almost any tool can kill, or be used in the proper manner. By the way a gun has saved my life, as well as allowed my children to live. I do agree with TatuBaron, don't call a tat machine a gun. Yes it does project ink into the skin, but gun is an outdated term, which provides a negative stigma to the art. With all the bad press from a few bad artists giving the whole community a bad name for health and safety reasons, it's just not cool.
TatuBaron, you may ink like a tatooist but you answer like a scratcher.
Here's the answer: Most machines can be both, it just depends on how you set your rear post, and adjust your supply. What you have to understand is that it requires more power to run the large mag needles than the smaller liners. If you have a machine with only 8 wrap coils I wouldn't recommend using it with large mag or rounds. For serious coloring and shading you're gonna want a machine with at least 10 wrap coils installed to push the heavier weight. Just do yourself a favor and have 2 10 wrap coiled machines ready to go, 1 with the setup for lining and one for shading and you shouldn't run into problems. Oh, and the machine is not a sacred thing, it's a freaking tool. Question poster, call it a machine, call it a gun. It doesn't matter what you call it, just what you can do with it.
First off "sacred" is a relative term. Some might use it to describe a medium for a "greater than the sum of..." experience, in which case it would be sacred to that person.
Now as for your answer it is more than just how you set your post and the power supply. There are different gauge springs and different stroke settings and how an individual tattoos. There are a number of ways to go about it.
Essentially a liner will run faster w/ a shorter stroke to avoid holidays vs. the power and overall area that a shader must cover.
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--A tattoo machine in the hands of someone without at least basic professional sterilization training may very well be called "A Gun." Hep C and HIV are very effective "bullets."
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What do they use in making a linning before the tattoo is done?
to do the outline on a tattoo you need a needle called a liner for instance you could use a 14 round liner. now for shading you need a shader which is another kind of needle now you can use a 14 round shader or a 14 flat mag shader that answer your question and an p.s you can get a needle any size they can go as small as 1 all the way up to a 49 flat and so on
What tattoo needle best for Solid black script writing?
A liner to get the solid lines and a round shader ir small mag to get the thicker parts. Im trying new things so im not too sure but tuning is key. Just stay away from scratchers on u tube, learn from eikons information which is professional info on machines by artists/builders not u tube know nothings like tattootraining
Can you use a flat tattoo needle to make an outline like you can use a magnum tattoo needle?
You can if you need to, but I would not recommend doing this for a whole tattoo. Not that there is anything wrong with it per se, but you are taking at risk unneeded trauma to the skin with this configuration as opposed to using a nice tight Round Liner.
Can you outline with round colouring needles?
Not usually. A "round" needle is actually a group of needles welded together. An outlining needle is one needle. If you outlined with a shading needle you'd get a very thick line. If the piece has real thick outlines, you could use a shading needle to do them, but most tattoos have thin outlines. This would be what you call lack of knowledge see me myself i have used up to an eighteen round liner (18 RL) the difference is the configuration where a liner is set so that the tips of the needles are clustered in a tight round configuration the shader's are a little more spread out , and to answer your question you could use a shader to line with but your line would be foggy or blurry because you points are spread to far apart
Which round liner are often used for lining a tattoo?
In almost all instances, one uses a 3RL, or perhaps a 7RL. All depends on the artist and the size of the piece.
Do you use a round shader or round liner to color a tattoo?
Until you have the skill to use a liner for coloring I would suggest you keep to the shader for coloring, you can dig holes in your client with a liner and that would not be a good idea. When using a shader for coloring use small circles to fill in the areas you want to color, ensure you have good skin tension and don't rush.
What makes a liner tattoo machine a liner and a what makes a shader tattoo machine a shader?
The difference between the two machines is the gap of tension in regards to the armature bar to the frame as well the gap between the contact screw to the spring. For a liner, you will want there to be more tension with the bar and a little bit of give with the spring. For a shader, you will want there to be less tension with the bar and more with the spring. The age old reference tool for this in regards to the proper amount of gap between the screw and the spring is; the width of a nickel for a liner, and the width of a dime for a shader. With this said, this is not a universal reference and all machines have the potential to be different. It all comes down to the type of metal that your frame is made of, the type of metal your armature bar is made of, the quality of your coil wrappings, the electrical integrity of your power supply, etc., etc. You get what you pay for with tattoo equipment, and nowhere is this more relevant than with your machines, ink, needles and your power supply so don't be cheap when it comes to buying supplies.
What do they use in making a linning before the tattoo is done?
to do the outline on a tattoo you need a needle called a liner for instance you could use a 14 round liner. now for shading you need a shader which is another kind of needle now you can use a 14 round shader or a 14 flat mag shader that answer your question and an p.s you can get a needle any size they can go as small as 1 all the way up to a 49 flat and so on
Do you use a liner or shader tattoo machine for colouring in?
a liner usually runs faster and delivers more of a punch. shaders run slower and back off easier because they make more passes over a single area of skin. these are, of course, really basic answers. there are more in depth reasons. consult your tattooist, and he/she can fill you in.
What voltage do you use for liner and shader on your mk57 tattoo machine?
Without knowing the specs of your power supply, I can't rightly say, but the tried and true tension test should give you an idea.
What voltage is recommended for a tattoo liner and shader?
Most tattoo power supplys operate from 12.5 to 14 volts, there is no perfect voltage for all tattoo mechines, each artist uses what makes them comfortable, as a general rule shaders use less than a liner. All power supplys are adjustable , and with such a large selection of different brands of mechines,and coils, no single voltage will work for all artist.
What is the best tattoo machine?
Many factors might affect a person's decision for a tattoo machine. For example, the cost, the quality, the brand, and the shape should be taken into consideration. There are many kinds of tattoo machines such as the liner machine, the shader machine and so on.
What is the difference between and expandable liner and a variable depth liner?
About 200 bucks!
What is the difference between Rhino and Super liner?
The difference is Rhino is a more grippier substance and Super Liner is more plastic.
How fast should a liner tattoo machine run?
A tattoo machine's speed is so very widely variable that an estimate would do no good. You could use a weak coil machine with a lot of spring tension on a low power source and it will go really slow. But say you use a double contact liner at high power and it goes fast. Even a single machine can be a slow shader or a fast liner. You'll never find a straight up answer, sorry.
What capicitors go with what size coil tattoo machine?
22uf 8 wrap liner (probably too FAST), 33uf 8 or 10 wrap still fast but more steady power, and 47 uf 10 or 12 wrap color . slower harder hitting . remember 8 wrap is liner, 10 is liner /shader (set up like a liner) and 12 wraps 47uf is only for big mag set up.
Is tattooed eye liner considered a tattoo?
never
